Comments on: Adobe® FAILS Twice in One Day http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/ Joe Manna's Personal Blog. Community manager, social media strategist and very opinionated. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:50:46 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Spacegoat http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-48229 Spacegoat Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:19:51 +0000 http://www.joemanna.com/blog/?p=644#comment-48229 Why pirate or support the products & producers you don't want to? Oh, that's right> corporate schills have never moved away from the proprietary OSs. If you don't need to go pro (re: production work) why use the tools of the industry? You think UR 2 good 4 the Gimp? YOU COULDN'T EVEN USE HIS 1px PENCIL! Adobe is Adobe. It's their business what they wish to sell. If you don't like it, code your own... Bloated software is one thing but whiny bloated consumer greed is it's own malignancy. Why pirate or support the products & producers you don’t want to? Oh, that’s right> corporate schills have never moved away from the proprietary OSs. If you don’t need to go pro (re: production work) why use the tools of the industry? You think UR 2 good 4 the Gimp? YOU COULDN’T EVEN USE HIS 1px PENCIL!
Adobe is Adobe. It’s their business what they wish to sell. If you don’t like it, code your own… Bloated software is one thing but whiny bloated consumer greed is it’s own malignancy.

]]> By: Junkyard Willie http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-47404 Junkyard Willie Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:11:45 +0000 http://www.joemanna.com/blog/?p=644#comment-47404 Epic failure #3: pricing themselves into piracy. Of the millions of privately-owned copies of Photoshop, only 6 of them were paid for. Epic failure #3: pricing themselves into piracy. Of the millions of privately-owned copies of Photoshop, only 6 of them were paid for.

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-47401 John Dowdell Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:52:41 +0000 http://www.joemanna.com/blog/?p=644#comment-47401 <em>"I would consider resolution when FreshAIRApps.com can keep their domain without threats from Adobe’s legal team."</em> Well, that's actually between the other two parties, not you and me, but I do understand Legal's general goal of keeping brandnames out of external products (a web domain location being the product here). What I'll be working for inside Adobe is a better communication process... the info is public, but when a reminder is necessary, I think we need to handle it more persuasively. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com+trademark+domain jd/adobe “I would consider resolution when FreshAIRApps.com can keep their domain without threats from Adobe’s legal team.”

Well, that’s actually between the other two parties, not you and me, but I do understand Legal’s general goal of keeping brandnames out of external products (a web domain location being the product here).

What I’ll be working for inside Adobe is a better communication process… the info is public, but when a reminder is necessary, I think we need to handle it more persuasively.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com+trademark+domain

jd/adobe

]]> By: Joe http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-47399 Joe Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:20:24 +0000 http://www.joemanna.com/blog/?p=644#comment-47399 John, Thanks for responding, I appreciate your feedback. Whether or not the matter being 'resolved,' my point is that Adobe is infringing on their loyal community of users. I would consider resolution when FreshAIRApps.com can keep their domain without threats from Adobe's legal team. Adobe hasn't publicly responded (e.g., a blog entry, a press release, etc.) to the concerns arising from the controversy. In all fairness, the PR mess peaked over the weekend, so I'm waiting to see such public acknowledgment on the matter. I saw the other perspectives from Mark and John as you refer to, I just hope the product management team will embrace the feedback and not deflect it. Put it this way, if the performance issues could be fixed, and the consumer notification of system changes could be implemented -- then I'd reconsider my view on the Adobe Reader product. I hope perhaps you could reach out to the various legal and product teams at Adobe and reach compromise and post it openly and transparently on one of the Adobe blogs. Best, Joe John,

Thanks for responding, I appreciate your feedback.

Whether or not the matter being ‘resolved,’ my point is that Adobe is infringing on their loyal community of users. I would consider resolution when FreshAIRApps.com can keep their domain without threats from Adobe’s legal team.

Adobe hasn’t publicly responded (e.g., a blog entry, a press release, etc.) to the concerns arising from the controversy. In all fairness, the PR mess peaked over the weekend, so I’m waiting to see such public acknowledgment on the matter.

I saw the other perspectives from Mark and John as you refer to, I just hope the product management team will embrace the feedback and not deflect it. Put it this way, if the performance issues could be fixed, and the consumer notification of system changes could be implemented — then I’d reconsider my view on the Adobe Reader product.

I hope perhaps you could reach out to the various legal and product teams at Adobe and reach compromise and post it openly and transparently on one of the Adobe blogs.

Best,
Joe

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.joemanna.com/blog/adobe-fails-twice-in-one-day/comment-page-1/#comment-47398 John Dowdell Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:26:31 +0000 http://www.joemanna.com/blog/?p=644#comment-47398 If you'll read the original conversations on the domain-branding issue you'll see it's already under resolution through other channels. (Your "Adobe has yet to publically acknowlege or respond" could use a correction or two.) And yes, Adobe Reader is a big app. It's far more than just a document-viewing tool. If you think Ben's post turned it into "EPIC FAIL", then I guess I'm glad you didn't pick up on Mark Pilgrim or John Welch yet.... ;-) jd/adobe If you’ll read the original conversations on the domain-branding issue you’ll see it’s already under resolution through other channels. (Your “Adobe has yet to publically acknowlege or respond” could use a correction or two.)

And yes, Adobe Reader is a big app. It’s far more than just a document-viewing tool. If you think Ben’s post turned it into “EPIC FAIL”, then I guess I’m glad you didn’t pick up on Mark Pilgrim or John Welch yet…. ;-)

jd/adobe

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